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Hunters and Collectors were a large Australian rock group formed in 1981 and disbanded in 1998. Their initial style was an obscure blend of art-funk before progressing to a bass and drum dominated pub rock phase and finally into a guitar driven pop rock style in later years. All main Hunters and Collectors albums are available new in Australia on CD.
The 'classic' Hunters and Collectors line up:
John Archer - bass guitar, P.A., backing vocals (1981-1998).
Additional early members:
Nigel Crocker - trombone (1981-1982).
This is a comprehensive discography presented in the style of Martin C. Strong, who is the author of a series of legendary rock discography books.
The journey that has taken Hunters & Collectors from esoteric art-funk innovators to Australia's greatest pub-rock exponents has been a fascinating one to say the least. The band's early records were full of challenging, noisy rock, bleak imagery, gripping drama and slithery funk. By the 1986 album Human Frailty and single `Say Goodbye', the band had stripped away unnecessary excess to arrive at a sound that combined equal parts refried boogie-rock and lyric paradoxes.
Front man Mark Seymour became the `thinking woman's sex symbol' with his blue labourer's singlet, bulging biceps, introspective angst and impassioned vocals. There was a double irony in the sight of beer-soaked boys in suburban pubs across the land bellowing about not feeling like a woman any more, while the girls danced relentlessly up the back. Hunters & Collectors' great achievement was to lay bare human emotions in the intensely ritualistic milieu of the pub-rock gig.
- Ian McFarlane, The Encyclopaedia of Australian Rock and Pop, 2000
Hunters and Collectors began life immersed in an Australian academic environment characterised by excessive quantities of alcohol and loud rock.
John Archer, Mark Seymour and Robert Miles were friends at a Melbourne University residential college called Ormond College in the 1970's. After John and Robert joked around about forming a band for a while, they eventually formed the Schnortts. This wholly unsuccessful circa 1978 adventure was the first band to contain Mark Seymour, John Archer, Doug Falconer and Robert Miles. The inspiration for the name Schnortts came from a Belgian tennis racquet of Rob's, used primarily for air guitar, that John converted into a two string 'electric tennis racquet'.
Many drinks later, the core of what was to become Hunters and Collectors formed The Jetsonnes in Melbourne in September 1979. The line-up comprised of Mark Seymour (guitar), John Archer (bass), Doug Falconer (drums), Ray Tosti-Gueira (guitar), Margot O'Neill (vocals) and Robert Miles (live sound and artwork). The band had a light, bouncy pop sound and only recorded a track called News-paper, a gig giveaway 7" single.
The Jetsonnes played in the Melbourne area for about a year before disbanding around September 1980. All members except Margot were soon to reappear in May 1981 in a new more radical concept band. Mark introduced new members Geoff Crosby (keyboards) and Greg Perano (percussion) and became the vocalist. A massive horn section, initially comprising of six members, was soon added to form the new band. Robert Miles became a full member to handle sound and mixing of the even member band.
The band was named by Greg Perano after the German band Can's track Hunters and Collectors from their 1975 album Landed. The new band counted among it's influences Can, David Byrne and Brian Eno.
Hunters and Collectors made their live debut on the 15th of May 1981 at the Seaview Ballroom in Melbourne. Quickly earning a reputation as the 'next big thing', Hunters and Collectors were renowned for chaotic, intense live performances. They were signed up by Mushroom Records label White, which they remained with throughout their career. The January 1982 released debut EP World Of Stone (World Of Stone / Watcher / Loinclothing) gave the Hunna's an early taste of popular success (#50).
The self titled debut studio album came out in mid 1982, selling reasonably well in Australia (#14, Gold) and in New Zealand. The album put a focus on intense, percussive instrumental sections featuring everything from the massive brass section to an empty gas cylinder. It features the bands first truly excellent song, the seven and a half minute Talking To A Stranger (#59). The single was also eventually released in the UK in various forms. The obscure but brilliant display of confusion and imagery in the Richard Lowenstein video clip for Talking To A Stranger is also regarded as a classic. The World Of Stone EP can be found on CD versions of this album.
Following their discovery in the Hunters and Collectors album, Martin Lubran replaced Tosti-Gueira on guitar and the 'Horns Of Contempt' brass section was down to Howard, Smith and Waters. A second EP Payload (Lumps Of Lead / Towtruck / Droptank / Mouthtrap) was released by the end of 1982. An eerie apocalyptic video clip for Lumps Of Lead was made for the EP.
The following year of 1983 was difficult for the band and resulted in Perano and Lubran leaving. Hunters and Collectors spent six miserable months in the UK after which they recorded their second studio album The Fireman's Curse (#77, Gold) in West Germany with Conny Plank. The band and critical view of the album is reflected in it's absence from all live and compilation albums. There was a lack of direction or fresh ideas which resulted in an album that is hard to love. Highlights from the album include Curse and the singles Judas Sheep and Sway.
After a period of re-evaluation, Hunters and Collectors re-emerged in July 1984 a smaller but stronger band, releasing the classic album The Jaws Of Life (#89, Gold). Influenced by the likes of Ian Rilen and X, the new sound featured an strong drum and bass section. When combined with vivid Australian imagery from Mark Seymour's more directed lyrics and raw vocals, The Jaws Of Life was an accomplished album on a new tangent for the Hunna's. The classic double a-sided single The Slab / Carry Me gave a taste of an album full of stunning tracks that includes 42 Wheels, the fun The Way To Go Out and the dark Little Chalkie. The Payload EP can be found on CD versions of The Jaws Of Life.
After three studio albums and two EP's, Hunters and Collectors released their first live album in May 1985, The Way To Go Out (#76, Gold). Preceding this album in November 1984 was the the first of three single releases of Throw Your Arms Around Me, this as a raw live recorded 7" single. Following The Way To Go Out, Michael Waters (already on trombone) took over keyboards from the departing Crosby. It was also at this time that Hunters and Collectors linked up with long term manager Michael Roberts.
Following a band decision to appear to a broad audience, Hunters and Collectors released Human Frailty (#10, Double Platinum) in May 1986. The album, themed on human relationships, presented the bass and drum focus of The Jaws Of Life in a more focused, melodic and ultimately successful context. Human Frailty brought the Hunna's mainstream attention in Australia with the singles Say Goodbye (#24), a cleaner, studio version of Throw Your Arms Around Me (#49), Everything's On Fire (#78) and Is There Anybody In There?. Human Frailty was released outside of Australia under I.R.S. Records. Standout tracks beyond the singles include Dog, Relief and This Morning.
Emphasising drumming and production a little more, Hunters and Collectors released the Australian only What's A Few Men? album in April 1987 (#16, Platinum). Mark Seymour took the album's title from Albert Facey's memoir, An Fortunate Life. The title track was about mistreatment Australian soldiers received in World War 1 at the hands of English leaders. The album contained the singles Do You See What I See? (#33, November 1987) and Still Hanging 'Round (February 1988). Standout album tracks include Around The Flame and Under The Sun.
Targeting the lucrative US market, What's A Few Men? was remixed with some tracks (including Back On The Breadline) added and some tracks removed. This more produced effort, Fate (September 1988), failed to make a significant dint in the market is was intended for but did yield the moderately successful single Back On The Breadline (#37). Fate replaced What's A Few Men? in Australian stores in April 1991 but was in turn replaced by an expanded What's A Few Men? in August 2003.
Having provided guitar on Fate, Harem Scarem guitarist Barry Palmer joined the band formerly in 1988. Their next album, released at the end of 1989, was Ghost Nation (#10, Double Platinum). The album contained the singles When The River Runs Dry (#23), Turn A Blind Eye (#42), The Way You Live (#75) and Love All Over Again. Nominated for six ARIA awards in 1989 for Ghost Nation, the only win was for Robert Miles' artwork (which Rob uses as a bookend). Regarded as a massive surprise, the lack of awards was a motivation for changing the ARIA award voting process. Hunters and Collectors were named Australian Band of the Year in Rolling Stone in 1990 after their support gig on Midnight Oil's 1990 tour. Ghost Nation is one of the best Hunters and Collectors albums, also containing Ghost Nation and Lazy Summer Day. Atlantic Records, who had recently signed the band and released the album internationally, dumped the Hunna's following Ghost Nation.
1990 also saw the release of Collected Works (#8, Double Platinum), a 'best of' compilation album covering all Hunters and Collectors works to date. The overseas I.R.S. version was drawn from Human Frailty EP and Fate eras. In Australia the Collected Works album was a more interesting set of songs reflecting band preferences that covered up to and including Ghost Nation. Australia also enjoyed a video version, which contained more songs and expected singles choices. The Australian versions of Collected Works also contained a new polished and radio friendly version of Throw Your Arms Around Me which was released as a single (#34).
The early albums (Hunters and Collectors, The Fireman's Curse, The Jaws Of Life, The Way To Go Out) were released on CD in Australia in 1991. Initially this was in the Skin, Bones & Bolts box set (#86) before the albums were individually issued. In these new releases, the World Of Stone EP was attached to the Hunters and Collectors album while the Payload EP was attached to The Jaws Of Life album. The artwork was changed, particularly in the case of The Jaws Of Life, which no longer showed the mass of Australian imagery from the LP version.
In September 1991 Hunters and Collectors gave a very early taste of their next album with the single Where Do You Go? (#33). Mark Seymour and Paul Kelly got together for the May 1992 single Hey Boys (#62), lifted from the Garbo soundtrack.
Later in 1992 the full assault for what would be Hunters and Collectors most successful singles era in Australia began. The surprising Head Above Water came out in July (#64) before the political We The People (#70). Then in October the Hunna's most commercially aimed studio effort to date, Cut (#6, Double Platinum), was released. Cut was produced by Don Gehman of R.E.M. and John Mellencamp fame. Album sales rose as the string of hit singles continued with True Tears Of Joy (#14, November 1992), Holy Grail (#20, March 1993) and the beautiful Imaginary Girl (#82, August 1993). Cut yielded an impressive six top 100 hits, while also featuring great album tracks including Grindstone, Edge Of Nowhere and Hear No Evil.
Partly in response to the lack of international acclaim for Cut, Hunters and Collectors quickly recorded and released Demon Flower in May 1994 (#2). The first single from it was the Easy (#38, May 1994) which featured a humorous video involving toy cars. Commercial singles were released for Back In The Hole and Drop In The Ocean, along with a promotional single for The One and Only You. Demon Flower placed an emphasis on electric guitars that had never been seen before in the Hunters and Collectors back catalogue. The result is controversial, with many enjoying Barry's crushing guitarwork while others preferring the more traditional Hunna's sound. Beyond the singles, tracks such as Desert Where Her Heart Is became new classics.
A cover of the Saint's song Know Your Product was put on the Earth Music compilation album in June 1994. During the time of Demon Flower, a bonus EP CD Live Demons In Amsterdam was given away with new Hunters and Collectors albums. The only song performed on this EP that there is no other commercial live recording of is Dog.
The band toured Europe in support of Demon Flower and then took a break. During this break the double live set Living In Large Rooms and Lounges was issued in December 1995 (#45, Gold). One of the CD's was recorded live at the Continental (acoustic) and the other disc contains tracks recorded live in pubs. The material covered is weighted towards Human Frailty and Demon Flower but contained some tracks found on Jaws Of Life, What's A Few Men?/Fate, Ghost Nation and Cut.
By the time 1997 came around, a split was inevitable. There were there were external family commitments, long running internal disputes and it was simply time to 'call it a day'. Instead of issuing a 'best of' compilation when breaking up, Hunters and Collectors recorded their last studio album Juggernaut (#36) and released it in February 1998. It contained the Mark Seymour and Paul Kelly penned single Suit Your Style. The sound on Juggernaut was softer, with hints of Crowded House. Standout tracks include the promotional single Higher Plane, the ode to fans True Believers, Wasted In The Sun and the closer Long Way To The Water.
Hunters and Collectors launched one final gruelling tour aptly titled Say Goodbye. Their final public show was on the 22nd of March 1998 and their final, invitation only, gig on the 24th of March 1998, both in Melbourne. The mighty Hunna's were finished. For good.
During 1998 Mushroom re-released a Talking To A Stranger single as part of their '25th Anniversary' celebrations. The single contained a new live version along with the original, five remixes, and video's of the live and studio versions.
In November 1998 the third and final live Hunters and Collectors album was released. Under One Roof, initially released as a CD and VHS video was recorded at Selina's in Sydney and was a form of 'best of' to mark the end of the band at the time. In November 2003, Under One Roof was released on DVD with a surround sound audio mix.
The Hunters and Collectors contract expired with Festival Mushroom Records in April 2003, resulting in a new contract with Liberation Records. This was great for fans as a swag of new releases appeared from mid 2003. First off were remastered versions of all the studio albums by August 2003. What's A Few Men? was re-released on CD, with additional songs from the no longer available "Fate" included on the end.
A new studio best-of compilation, Natural Selection, (October 2003), brought Hunters and Collectors back into the Australian albums chart (#40, Gold). The first Hunters and Collectors DVD's soon appeared in the form of the comprehensive studio video compilation Natural Selection (November 2003) and Under One Roof (November 2003).
Liberation Records continue to work the Hunters and Collectors back catalogue. The Way To Go Out was released on DVD in June 2004 and a noticeably remastered CD in August 2004. A rarities album called Mutations was released in September 2005, containing almost all studio b-sides from the Hunters and Collectors back catalogue. In September 2006, a 20th anniversary edition of the Human Frailty album was released, including a bonus DVD of video clips and RockArena live footage. Living In Large Rooms and Lounges reappeared in stores in June 2007. Great Australian Albums featured Human Frailty in 2008, resulting in a documentary DVD being released in October 2008.
The 'Holy Grail' for Hunters and Collectors was released in November 2008 in the form of a 16 disc box set. A wood grain appearance solid cardboard box package, Horn of Plenty contained the nine standard studio albums on CD, the Mutations CD, the three EP's on a CD called Cargo Cult, a rarities CD titled Spare Parts, the two CD Living In Large Rooms and Lounges, Under One Roof and The Way To Go Out on one DVD and a remastered Natural Selection DVD. This remains the ultimate Hunna's release.
Hunters and Collectors have played together three times since 1998. The first was to perform two songs upon their induction into the ARIA Icons Hall of Fame in 2005. The second was for the 2009 Melbourne Sound Relief concert in support of Victorian bush fire victims. Eight songs were played at Sound Relief, including The Slab as the encore, much to the delight of fans.
In an unanticipated twist, Hunters and Collectors reformed in 2011 for their first full gig in thirteen years. As the closing act for the Sydney V8's Saturday afternoon concert, the Hunna's played 17 songs during their 90 minute set. All the hits were given a run while fans of all eras were catered for with tracks ranging from Head Above Water to Dog to Little Chalkie to a hypnotic Skin of Our Teeth.
Trumpet player Jack Howard and vocalist Mark Seymour have solo careers.
Jack Howard, the trumpet player and a backing vocalist in Hunters and Collectors, has an established solo career. Musically, Jack's solo material tends to be darker and more melancholic than Mark Seymour's, making it some ways closer to the moods in the music of Hunters and Collectors. Jack plays regularly around Melbourne with a series of talented musicians and friends.
Jack's first full solo studio album, Secrets and White Lies, was released in July 2002 through Laughing Outlaw Records. The new album is a lot bigger and stronger than his first solo effort, the Lo Stresso Tempo EP. Dominating melodic drum and bass rock combines in Secrets with a touch of country and jazz to form an impressive album. Favourites include You Will Find, Heard You Cry, Sail Upon Her Smile and title track Secrets and White Lies.
Jack Howard had regular Friday night gigs at the Elwood RSL during 2002 and 2003 with his band The Long Lost Brothers. Jack Howard also played in The Elwood Dad's Band through 2002, a collection of musical fathers who all have children attending Elwood Primary School. Whilst involved in all of these and many other musical endeavours, Jack Howard recorded a second solo album called Let's Fall In Love, which was released in October 2004. Choice picks include Pendulum, Let's Fall In Love, I Just Don't Understand and the cover Sea Of Love.
Jack's third studio album, My Lucky Day, was released in July 2007. The base 11 track full band album was complemented by six stripped back tracks featuring Jack and John Berto on electric guitar. The base album contained Will You Wait and Dial-A-Prayer, while Don't Fade Away from the later tracks is among Jack's best. Jack's ability to form a great band is reflected again in the superb musicianship on the My Lucky Day album.
The Lost Horizon album appeared in November 2009, made on a shoestring budget yet sporting an impressive range of talented young musicians. Finding critical acclaim, the 9 track album featured many new favourites, including Crescent Moon and Lost Horizon. A video clip was made for the beautiful If I Were A Bird.
As at the end of 2011, Jack is preparing to launch a new studio album which is likely to be named Shadowlands.
Mark Seymour continued to promote his first solo album King Without A Clue (#53) during 1998 after the Hunna's split. The album spawned four singles - Last Ditch Cabaret (April 1997, #85), The Ghost Of Vainglory (October 1997), Home Again (July 1998) and You Don't Have To Cry Anymore (September 1998). Mark Seymour's solo album showed a more radio friendly acoustic guitar based pop sound than the band had ever shown. Mark's preferred touring was solo with an acoustic guitar, though some gigs were performed with his brother Nick Seymour of Crowded House fame, or more regularly with Rod Davies. Robert Miles continued to work with Mark Seymour, taking care of Mark's live sound whilst working as an architect for a 'day job'.
Mark Seymour returned in March 2001 with the exceptional One Eyed Man album (#67). The first single Don't You Know Me? (February 2001) excited the fans but lacked airplay. A second album track, the brilliant Ballad Of The One Eyed Man, was released as a promo single only. The record company, Festival Mushroom Records, was not interested in more commercial singles. On an album full of catchy guitar based melodic pop rock the standout tracks include Sad Songs, Blue Morning, Always A Fool (For A Pretty Face) and On My Way Home. The standard of this album was acknowledged by the 2001 ARIA award win for Best Adult Contemporary Album.
Mid way through 2001 Mark Seymour parted ways with Festival Mushroom Records after a twenty year association. Mark linked up with Warner for The Ballad Of The One Eyed Man Live At The Basement DVD in November 2001. A CD version was in turn released in February 2002 through the Basement and Warner. The performances on these releases were taken from Mark Seymour's gig at the Basement nightclub in Sydney on the 10th of July 2001. A number of previously unreleased songs featured on these releases.
Recording for Mark Seymour's third solo album, Embedded, was completed by June 2003 and the album was released in April 2004. Claimed by many to be Mark's most cohesive album to date, Embedded presented a collection of dark tales from the suburbs. Embedded featured the radio only singles Try Not To Try (September 2003), 43 In The Shade (March 2004) and Shoulder To Cry On (July 2004). Other highlights included Mark's ode to his former record company Made Man, a dedication to the anxiety of modern living in Left Alive and live favourite In The Kitchen Of A Perfect Home.
Joining the Liberation Records Liberation Blue Acoustic Series, Mark recorded and released two live in studio acoustic albums, Daytime and the Dark (#99, March 2005) and Titanic (September 2007). The albums contained mainly Hunters and Collectors songs with a few Mark solo tracks. Some songs, such as Throw Your Arms Around Me and promotional single Do You See What I See? were predictably great, while unexpected pleasures were found in the likes of The Slab and Talking To A Stranger. A cracking duet with James Reyne of Dragon's April Sun in Cuba also appeared at this time, coinciding with Mark's co-headlining tours with James Reyne. A compilation of these two albums was released as The Closest Living Thing in Scandinavia (May 2008) and Canada (June 2009).
Mark's fourth solo album, Westgate, arguably Mark's most accomplished album to date, was released in June 2007. Westgate merged Mark's interpretations of society and relationships with more direct political commentary. Title track Westgate told the story of the 1970 Westgate bridge collapse from the perspective of worker Ed Halsall. Master of Spin was inspired by soon to be voted out Australian conservative Prime Minister John Howard and former Soviet Union leader Nikita Khrushchev. The yearning Walk Through Fire, haunting Mississauga and eerily realistic Love is a Heavy Load also became classics.
On the cold night of the 27th of September 2007, Mark fans gathered at the Espy in St Kilda, near Melbourne, for the recording of a live Mark Seymour video. The gig featured mainly material from the Westgate album, along with selected Hunna's and other Mark solo tracks. The resulting From Bondi to Bedlam DVD, released in December 2007, was a compellingly accurate capturing of this memorable gig. A combined CD and DVD release appeared in 2009.
Mark returned in June 2011 with Undertow (#51), a well received band focused album that went on to earn a 2011 ARIA Award nomination for Best Adult Contemporary album. Opener Castlemaine hinted at Mark's folk interests at the time, The Legend of the Snowmen dealt with asbestos workers while Classrooms and Kitchens covered the challenging subject of Mark's elderly mother Paula's dementia. A video clip was made for the sad but hopeful Cry in the Rain.
As at mid 2011, Mark continues to tour regularly around Australia.